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Jamie Perkins's avatar

I was kind of disappointed to see that you quickly jumped to the conclusion (jump to conclusion mat anyone?) that we will not need to know the fundamentals. Javascript is in the middle of your abstraction layer cake, but it is still being improved on and changed. Additionally, build tools that were previously written in node are being re-written in lower-level languages, and providing huge performance gains. If no one bothered to think about or learn these languages, we wouldn't have these improvements.

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KIRUPA 🍊's avatar

That is a valid point, Jamie. The 80/20 rule may apply here, to look at the flip side of this. In the past, 80% of people needed to know how things work to be productive. Today (or more so in the near future), only 20% will really need to know how things work so that they can push the boundaries further that the other 80% will benefit from.

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Nithin Sebastian's avatar

There is still the joy of knowing things that will be missed out if you just abstract away everything!!

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KIRUPA 🍊's avatar

Nithin - absolutely! That is what motivates me to keep learning and trying things out. I find that a "deeper understanding" often leads to a "deeper appreciation" for how things are.

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CrazyTim's avatar

Very interesting. I think you're right, Generative AI can be used as an abstraction to all the data we feed it. Its also another thing entirely because it can generate new content.

Abstractions are very useful but we shouldn't use them all the time, right? Eventually we will need to go lower level.

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KIRUPA 🍊's avatar

Agreed, CrazyTim! If we ever need to go one level deeper, knowing what is going on will be helpful.

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Doug Couch's avatar

Will try to keep this short. Once perception gives dividedness into 2 or many, that deception requires continuation/refreshing in order to continue to present perception at all. When we are born, we see a world around us already constructed with innumerable layers of technology and we accept that as our norm. Changes come along as the ongoing dividedness pursues its course and we adjust our norm again and again. Our cells and bone structure today are nothing like they were when we were born. This is the way of perception's experiencing modalities...change change change to keep perception alive. Stop changing and the entire universe collapses into the same singular nothingness from which it arose. One can attempt to look back and entertain every nuance of every detailed change; however, an incomplete task list will still be the case at the time of death...and that is not necessarily the best way to spend one's lifetime. Life is for living. Exploring the world's details is part of that living. But don't go overboard on it. Undoubtedly AI is here to stay. If a more full view of what we call reality and world were entertained in mind, not only would it blow our socks off, but we would realize that all of that multi-layered universe of things, actions, time, etc. is the result of AI. All "intelligence" is artificial. We revere intelligence and finding out details and yet these arise from nothing. All so called "knowledge" is trivial already, regardless of how we choose to view it. Nothingness however, is alive and is peace itself, wholly undivided and thus non-conflicted. If we delve into noticing it within us as what we are at the very core of our shared beingness, our willingness to open to noticing it will influence everything in our perceived world, evoking not simply more change, but guiding the processes of change such that the conflicts fade into acceptable levels. Our prideful trek into details amidst our explorations and multitudinous choices has mostly left out this key ingredient. The world is blessed by technology and yet it is caught in a downward spiraling maelstrom of exploration...currently trending toward AI as though it is something new. The dog that chased its tail all these many years has caught it. Will the biting of that tail yield utopian bliss? Or perhaps self-induced hell on earth? It seems it has already done all that. Now it's time to relax. We can relax with or without AI, and yet AI is already all around us as what we've grown accustomed to thinking of it as nature, biology and quantum entanglements of all kinds. Learning is the memory aspect of exploration of this already constructed world. But learning is not the answer to our dilemmas. Instead, when overdone, it creates dilemmas in order to answer our many questions. Keep questioning corralled at the level where it is needed and let answers arise to fulfill those requests. In the end...of all things, of all time...there can be only one, and in fact there is only one, wholly undivided reality. That's the truth (not these words but the reality itself). Let reality bring unconflicted experience to us more and more. Relying on AI is a nice practice method. Relying upon that which already exists within us to be there and pave the way ahead supersedes our invented AI, making it also to be noticed as trivial.

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KIRUPA 🍊's avatar

Wow. This is a great response, Doug. If this is what your version of a "short" response is, I can't wait to see your version of a "long" response :P

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